click behavior is inconsistent between roster and tray icon

[qsorix@…]

Hi,

You have to use different buttons to open incoming chat/message when clicking on roster (middle click) and tray icon (left click). It would be better to have the same action binded to the same buttons. Middle (or double) click to open chat and left button to show/hide roster or select contacts.

Thanks, Thomas 'QsoRiX' Rydzynski

[asterix]

dubble click on roster is the same as middle click.

dubble click on systray is useless and not the standard behaviour of systray.

I propose wontfix

[anonymous]

Well, I do not use double clicks and agree with you here. It was not, however, what I wanted to say.

The problem is that you use middle button to open message from roster and left button to open it from tray icon. It is harder to learn.

I reject wontfix :P

[junglecow]

I have to agree with anonymous here. What if I want to popup the roster when there are pending messages?

[asterix]

use middle click to show roster

IMHO left click should do the most usefull action. In this case opening the event sounds like the most usefull action. middle click to open event is really not intuitive.

middle click in roster to open event is just a shortcut. the standard way is to dubble click

[qsorix@…]

It is very bad when one button can trigger different actions. Period.

In my case it simply drives me mad when I have to click one button on roster and the other one in tray icon. Especially when clicking on the tray icon may not show the roster as usually because it just happened that someone wrote to me.

There is no such thing as "most useful action". Most mouses have three buttons and nobody thinks "Hmm... what would be the most useful action now?" before clicking. Humans have reflexes and they think much faster then the eyes do.

[asterix]

it seems each person have different reflex. behaviour has always been the same and youre the first one who complain.

mine is: ho my systray move, let's click on it to see whan happens. That's why I never thought the behaviour was bad.

Now let me add that with psi left click always toggle roster appearance, middle click to open event

[asterix]

(In [7987]) change click on systray behaviour. left click always toggle roster appearance, middle lcick to open pending events. fixes #2932

[radious]

I think that receiving messages by middle click is weird not only for me, so i fixed that and send you diffs. I now adding yet another advanced option is weird too but i don't know other solution.

[asterix]

as already said in this ticket, we did that to be consistant between click in systray and click in roster. I know psi is not a reference, but they do the same. I don't know for other clients. I propose to let it the way it is now.

[anonymous]

IMO, middle click should always show the roster, left click open an event if there is one and if not show the roster. This is the only consitant behaviour as this is what all other applications do. If a tray icon has an event, the user expects to open that with left click. Gajim however doesn't do that anymore, it shows the roster. The user is confused now why the event wasn't opened.

Additionally to that, middle click is not available on Win32, which means you can't open an event from the tray anymore. This is really user unfriendly as the user always has to open the roster and search for the event and click it there.

I vote for reverting it to the old behaviour, it was far more consistent with other applications and what the user expects.

[js]

Oh, that last comment was done by me, forgot to login, sorry.

[asterix]

Replying to js:

IMO, middle click should always show the roster, left click open an event if there is one and if not show the roster. This is the only consitant behaviour as this is what all other applications do. If a tray icon has an event, the user expects to open that with left click. Gajim however doesn't do that anymore, it shows the roster. The user is confused now why the event wasn't opened.

please read previous comments: not all applications do that. I citted psi that does as us.

Additionally to that, middle click is not available on Win32, which means you can't open an event from the tray anymore. This is really user unfriendly as the user always has to open the roster and search for the event and click it there.

I Agree that gtk.statusicon is very buggy and incomplete. But it'a not because it's buggy that we have to be inconsistant with the way we open an event in the roster: middle click

[js]

Psi is the only application doing it with middle click, and also only doing that in SVN. (At least, old versions always worked with left click for me). All other IMs I know use left click: Pidgin, Miranda, SIM, QIP, ICQ, Kopete, etc. So Psi are the ones being inconsistent. Why would we want to copy that?

[asterix]

but it's not consistant with the way we open a chat window in roster, which is the topic of this ticket

[js]

Yeah, but you closed the ticket with the topic that the new behaviour is unexpected and said we should continue the discussion here, which is just what I do. I'm still for the old behaviour as this is more consistent with the rest. If we want consistency with the roster, we wouldn't use middle click anyway, but double click.

[asterix]

I'm not against implementing dubble click in systray. The only thing is that the first click will also generate a button_press event. So we have to delay this action the time we're sure it's not a dubble click. This time is configurable, but maybe we can get it from GTK somewhere?

[asterix]

gtk.settings_get_default().get_property('gtk-double-click-time')

[asterix]

(In [10093]) implement double_click in systray. see #2932

[js]

Having double click and middle click open the event is consistent with everything, I guess. I'm perfectly fine with this → closed.

[js]

Oh, wait, we should only delay it _IF_ there are events! *reopen*

[asterix]

(In [10099]) don't delay click on systray if there is no waiting event. Fixes #2932